True Happiness depends on Yourself

sent in by Moses Kim

I was born a christian and went to church as long as I can remember and I still go to church, not because that I still have faith but because I don't want to cause trouble. Until my mid-twenties, I didn't have any feelings against christianity and there was time I participated in a lot of church activities. I really didn't think deeply about religion and didn't read much of the bible. The only bible story I knew was from church.

Then as I got older and became independent from my parents, I started to attend various other church. That time, I realized that many people had different ways of believing, according to which church they go. I started having conversation with them and became more open minded. Their way a belief had their own logic and seemed nice. I came to think that their is no absolute right way of believing god. However, what was disappointing is that most of strong believers claimed that their way is the 'right' way and others are wrong.

First, it was frustrating. After some thinking and some reading, I came to think that it is natural for humans to think that way. People are egocentric. They think that the religion their grew up with is right. This seemed pretty frustrating.

I thought to myself, 'Why can't people respect and try to understand other religion?'. The more I read the bible and the more I find out what is christanity is about, the more I lost faith in it.

Then something happened that really disappointed me. I had a female friend in church and she had a boyfriend but did not attend church. The elders in the church did not like that. So they 'brainwashed' her. Saying things like, 'God will be not happy if you keeping meeting him','I know it will be painful in the beginning, but god will show real happiness later on', etc. Eventually she broke up and married a real devoted man in church. He was about 15 years older than her. I saw that this thing happens alot in church.

After that I realised that all this was BS. I wanted to show them what they do does not make sense. That they are wasting time by praying. That they are wasting money by giving the church tithe. But to do that, I needed to have alot of knowledge about the bible and origins of christanity.

I really read alot of books religion, christianity, myths of the bible, etc. But what really surprised me is that most of the people in church did know much of the bible. I think they don't know much about what they are believing. Its seem like 'God loves you, hallelujah!!' So having some knowledge about the bible didn't work very well. And I realised that talking about contradictions of the bible and other things would really provoke them. When I should told someone that the bible said things about how the lord do not allow women to talk in church or teach men or have authority over men, (1corinthians 14:34 & 1Timothy 2:8), she instanly said 'F**k you!, the bible doesn't say that!'.

So I gave up talking to christains about that kind of subject. I also don't think it is right of me to insult them. Of course, my intention is not to mock them, but to show what they are believing. But they would reject me and not listen tp anything that conflicts their belief.

It's not really my concern what people believe, if they are happy with what they are believing and if that helps their daily life, then fine. But I think problem occurs when they try to convince people that their way of life is the only right way and if you don't follow jesus, you will go to hell.

I hope people in future, people would be more open minded. I hope that people would learn to respect each other and love each other regardless of what they believe or don't believe.

South Korea
Joined: Since I was Born
Left: About 31
Was: Presbyterian Church
Now: Between Agnostic and Atheist
Converted because: I was born in a Christian family
De-converted because: Some christians can be very ignorant.

7 comments:

TONY. said...

RELIGON AND ALL THESE RELIGOUS RADICALS ARE THE CAUSE OF ALL THE SHIT IN THE WORLD.ALL WARS.I THINK THE POLYGYMISTS,CATHOLIC PEDOPHILES AND MORMONS IN AMERICA ARE THE WORSE HERE.IN THE MIDDLE EAST WITH ALL THE RELIGOUS RADICALS AND BRAIN-WASHING OF CHILDREN TO GROW-UP TO SUICIDE BOMB EVERYONE AND THE USA IS INSANE.THERE IS NO GOD OR SATAN.JUST A LOT OF FUCKED UP PEOPLE IN THE WORLD!AND ITS VERY SAD BECAUSE BETWEEN GLOBAL WARMING,RELIGOUS FREAKS/WARS BASICALLY MANKIND WILL DESTROY OUR OWN PLANET.ESP SINCE NO-ONE CAN GET ALONG IN THIS WORLD.SHIT A LOT OF PEOPLE CANT EVEN GET ALONG WITH THERE NEIGHBOORS.ITS CAUSE OF HUMAN NATURE.EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT WAY OF THINKING,DIFFERENT PERSONALLITY.AND THE BIBLE HAS MORE MISCONCEPTIONS,CONDRIDICTIONS,MYTHOLOGY,LIES THAN ANY OTHER FICTION BOOK EVER SOLD.AND HAVE MADE CHURCHES INTO MULTI-MILLION/BILLION DOLLAR INDUSRTY.AT THE EXPENSE OF WEAK MINDED PEOPLE WITH NO SELF ESTEAM OR SELF VALUE OR SELF CONFIDINCE!AND THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE NO MONEY AND ARE IN DESPERATE SITUATION(S) THESE RELIGOUS ASSES IN THE CHURCH WILL TAKE YOUR LAST BUCK AND GO FEED THERE GREED!!!

AND YES IM AN ATHEIST I WILL EVENTUALLY POST MY TESTEMONY THIS MONTH.I HAVE BEEN BUSSY.

AND YES I USED TO BE A CHRISTIAN BUT NEVER AGAIN! TAKE CARE EVERYONE.

P.S.(FOR ALL YOU CHRISTIANS,CATHOLICS AND ECT:SINCE YOU BELIEVE IN SATAN.YOU SHOULD THANK SATAN! BECAUSE HE HAS KEEPT ALL OF YOU AND YOUR CHURCHES IN BUSINESS ALL THESE YEARS!! LOL!)

FROM:TONY cybery2kbombs@yahoo.com

SpaceMonk said...

Welcome Moses Kim,
You told a familiar story, which I'm glad for, because it's the sign of yet another person waking up, and that christianity's days are numbered.
I also like the title you picked for your testimony.

In it you said, "I wanted to show them what they do does not make sense. ...But to do that, I needed to have alot of knowledge about the bible and origins of christanity."

While such knowledge is good to have, and to share, it's not necessary to know all about the origins of christianity in order to disprove it.
It's really only that knowledge of the bible bit you need.

Idea's like a merciless hell of eternal torment being created by a so called loving and merciful god ae enough to do that.
Hell is a basic christian fact that they are all aware of, from the bible itself, but don't seem to realise it's implications.

...and there is no act you can possibly commit for which it is 'justice' to be punished for all eternity.

So that's 'loving', 'merciful' and 'just' all crossed off from bible-god's attributes - all due to his insistence on an eternal hell.
- So bible-god can't be what he claims to be - therefore he is nothing.
- Therefore his hell is nothing
- and christianity is nothing without hell.
(ie. What is there for 'Christ' to have saved us from?)

So all that history of who wrote what gospel or what epistle? How did Constantine bring it to be at the Council of Nicea? Was there really a bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdalene? Is the Catholic Church and their unbroken line of holy Popes the true church? Who really were the bad guys in the Crusades, or the Inquisiton, or the Reformation? Is the KJV really the only true bible? When is the Rapture going to come, and Armageddon to follow? Who is going to be the Antichrist? What is 666 going to turn out to be? etc, etc...
is irrelevant.

Though pretty interesting... ;)

freedy said...

Moses,.."people are egocentric",..your right,xtians are egocentric because the god of the bible is egocentric.Jealous,angry,vengeful and sadistic!

Jim said...

Hi Moses kim. You waste your time trying to show weakminded believers that they are up being led up the garden path. One of the main things that hold believers captive to the lies of the church is firstly, the fear of hell. Secondly they are all brainwashed with the idea that any infomation that speaks against the church is from Satan using people. This of course is utter bullshit. Tithing in the church keeps it wealthy and powerful to be able to afford advertising to promote its lies, and promoting its propaganda. Money and power give it the golden opportunity to manipulate Governments and conversion of folk in third world countries. I consideder all religions to be evil. Cheers all Jim Lee

Bill Dearmore said...

Moses,

As you are learning, very few Xtians will listen to you. Most will simply get angry and/or condemn you to hell if you try to tell them why they are mistaken.

People like you and many of us who have really thought about it and come to realize that god is a fairy tale character are the clear exceptions.

We can help make the world a better and more tolerant place by just being good people ourselves. Of course, there are appropriate times to discuss our beliefs (ideas, knowledge, insights, etc) with religious people, but most times it is worse than futile.

Anonymous said...

You are right. People don't like to hear the truth. people are egocentric, esp. christians. they blindly beleive what they are told and rarely question( esp. true for blacks). i am black. I was told to NEVER to question god,just read certain passages and believe no matter what. Stupid huh? I guess if the bible said jump off a bridge I should do it.

muttmutt1978 said...

its not my place to tell you wheter or not to go to church. as for me personally id rather be honest with myself and not go. Going to church is like boxing yourself up once a week. I am the type that doesnt mind making waves. I know what i believe and if it affects my family be it positive or negative then so be it. My beliefs are not thiers and I have learned to think for myself even if my family is made up of christian sheep and i no longer want to be in a sheep pen ready for slaughter. If your family cant accept you for who you really are then it seems you have a bad family. Not to be rude just being honest. a family is supposed to accept you no matter what you believe. thats my take on it anyways.

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