Breaking Baptist Barriers

sent in by Brandon Belden

I grew up literally smothered and confused by the dogmatic and polarizing messages I recieved weekly at our local First Baptist Church. My basic experience was go to church, sing some boring songs, listen to an emotionless preacher, and hope to get out in time for the kickoff of the Cowboys game. Of course 15 years of being dragged to "worship" instilled a fear-based confusion in me that was instrumental in abnormal behaviors and addictions that I adapted in adulthood. My mother was the most self-righteous, hypocritical, insecure woman I have ever met, except of course when she went to play church and "perfect mom" in front of the weekly congregation of Churchians.

I had no self-esteem or self identity by the time I was 18, and I figured the only way to get my mom's approval was to go off to Baptist college. The first thing that happened upon arriving at school was getting into an argument with a gluttonus blowhard professor who could not stand his ideaologies challenged. This pretty much sums up christianity as a whole. Do as we say, not as we do. Everything is the devil's fault. Paul is the Messiah of the Messiah. Religious cliche after religious cliche statements.

After years of putting up with this bullcrap, and figuring out the newest preacher at the local first baptist church was nothing less than a two-bit con artist, I had enough. For a brief time I hung out with a flaming zionist who could talk about nothing but poor mistreated Israel, and freemasonry. His concepts made alot of sense, about the decree of Constantine of Rome outlawing the Torah sabbath and instituting Sunday worship on penalty of death for violations, of the protestant obsession with building phallus symbols on top of church buildings, how protestants talk about God while violating all of his laws and teaching myths like Santa Claus and Easter bunny as truth, and so on.

What this did was teach me to not accept anyones interpretation or teachings as infallable truth. Eventually I met a girlfriend who had fallen prey to the same people, the messianic zionists, and I was introduced to the Nag Hammadi texts that the papal authorities tried to bury forever, and a couple of books called CONVERSATIONS WITH GOD, and THE BIGGEST SECRET.

TBS is by David Icke, and he pretty much destroys the origins of literal christianity and exposes christianity for what it is, mind control for people who refuse to think critically. His work is all referenced and cross referenced, and really helped me step out of my religious cage. The final straw on even associating with protestant/catholic types for this season was going into a baptist church office and finding a photo of George W. Bush hanging next to the 10 Commandments. The churchians have definately embraced everything that is against the basic teachings of God and or/ the Christ in pursuit of the all-mighty fiat dollar. I shake off my sandals, learn from the past, and look forward to embracing the gnostic and esoteric teachings of all enlightened masters whether it be Pythagoras or Buddha, a hindu sage or a muslim caliph.

There is wisdom to be found in the deepest meanings of the ancients that christianity has tried to destroy yet has not succeeded. Peace!

Dallas
Tx
USA
Became a Christian at 8
Left Christianity at 28
I was a Baptist, Non-Denom, Pentecostal, 7th Day Adventist, Messianic Jewish
Now I am a Gnostic
I converted out of fear
I de-converted through educating myself
email: namaste_1_61803399 at yahoo dot com

5 comments:

mmurphy said...

MOST ALL THESE COMMENTS I READ ARE ALL SELFISH ACTS, TO GLORIFY YOU, YOU, YOU. FISRT OFF BUDDA, AND ANY OTHER PERSON CAN SAY BEAUTIFUL THINGS OUT OF THERE MOUTH, BUT TO FOLLOW A PERSON- YOU WILL FAIL- BECAUSE HE IS A PERSON AND WE ARE ALL SINNERS. OH YA WE ARE! DID YOU KNOW THAT PEOPLE FAIL YOU, THAT'S WHY YOU ARE ALL MESSED UP. GOD IS THE ONLY SAVIOR WE HAVE, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO OFFERS SALVATION. PEOPLE ARE JUST PEOPLE, NOT GOD! JESUS IS THE ULTIMENT TRUTH, TO THE DEVILS BIG LIE. CAN YOU DISPROVE THE BIBLE? DID NOT THINK SO. CAN YOU PROVE WE DO NOT HAVE A DESIGNER? DID NOT THINK SO. WELL I CAN PROVE WE DO. IT'S ALL OUT THERE,THE TRUTH IS. IF YOU ARE HONESTLY SEARCHING YOU WILL FIND TRUTH. IF YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE, IT'S BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE FAITH TO UNDERSTAND. SECOND FOLLOWING PEOPLE WILL NOT GET YOU TO HEAVEN- ONLY JESUS WILL- BELIEVE IT OR NOT- GOD GIVES YOU FREE CHOICE. BUDDA SURE DID NOT BRING YOU INTO THIS WORLD- SO WHY FOLLOW HIM? JESUS IS THE ONLY THAT REALLY CARES ABOUT YOU- WHY? BECAUSE HE MADE YOU.

freeman said...

Brandon,
Congrats to you!

" What this did was teach me to not accept anyones interpretation or teachings as infallable truth."

Yes Brandon, opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Not to mention, they all stink!

Welcome to the Texas free thinking society, I'm in Fort Worth. If everyone truly believed that one could actually go to hell for their "sins", most of these hipocrites in texas churches will be the first to go!

freeman said...

mmurphy,

"I CAN PROVE WE DO."

First, stop screaming!

Second, please start your rant on proving your diety. Oh, do not use your bible either unless you can prove beyond a shadow of doubt that your god used human hands to write such divel.

Third, you cannot disprove Zeus, nor all the other dieties that exist in cultures all over the world. Truly Allah is disappointed in your misunderstanding of the scriptures and your soul will be tortured for all time!

cdmon said...

mmurphy: MOST ALL THESE COMMENTS I READ ARE ALL SELFISH ACTS, TO GLORIFY YOU, YOU, YOU.

First,Turn your caps lock off. You are yelling at us, and you don't need to.

These comments are no more selfish than those who come in here and try to change us. Isn't that the epitomy of selfish to try to force everyone to believe the way you do.

mmurphy: AND ANY OTHER PERSON CAN SAY BEAUTIFUL THINGS OUT OF THERE MOUTH, BUT TO FOLLOW A PERSON- YOU WILL FAIL- BECAUSE HE IS A PERSON AND WE ARE ALL SINNERS.

And exactly what is it you xians are doing? Following a person, say a pastor or evangelist. Taking their words and opinions as if they were gospel.

"We are all sinners?" Speak for yourself, I don't believe in sin. Especially one that I was allegedly involved in from Adam and Eve, that I never had any choice in, that made me worthy of burning in your mythical hell the moment I was born. That is so absurd and supremely unjust.

mmurphy: BUT TO FOLLOW A PERSON- YOU WILL FAIL- BECAUSE HE IS A PERSON AND WE ARE ALL SINNERS.

That is exactly what you are doing!! You can't think for yourself you have to follow your silly superstition called xianity.
Which you know was created by man.

mmurphy: GOD IS THE ONLY SAVIOR WE HAVE, AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO OFFERS SALVATION.

Salvation from what? We don't need your salvation, we don't need to be blind sheep... been there done that....woke up!

mmurphy: JESUS IS THE ULTIMENT TRUTH, TO THE DEVILS BIG LIE.

Seems funny because the bible can't even get his alleged story straight. Besides the devil is a xian invention. You xians need a devil to blame your shortcomings on. (ie. the devil made me do it) What a freaking copout!! You can't take responsibilty for your own actions... How pathetic!

mmurphy: CAN YOU DISPROVE THE BIBLE?

Uh, YEAH!! But I don't really need too it does a good job of debunking itself without any of my help.

mmurphy: CAN YOU PROVE WE DO NOT HAVE A DESIGNER?

It is up to you to show the burden of proof.

mmurphy: WELL I CAN PROVE WE DO. IT'S ALL OUT THERE,THE TRUTH IS. IF YOU ARE HONESTLY SEARCHING YOU WILL FIND TRUTH.

Okay, you said you can prove you do then please, by all means do so.
We are all awaiting some empirical proof. Why not have him make a personal appearance, that would remove any doubt wouldn't it.

mmurphy: IF YOU ARE HONESTLY SEARCHING YOU WILL FIND TRUTH. IF YOU CAN NOT UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE, IT'S BECAUSE YOU DO NOT HAVE FAITH TO UNDERSTAND.

Why is it you need faith to understand? In psalms it says easy to understand... Yet that's why there are 10,000 different denominations who can't agree on anything your buy bull says. So honestly how can faith make contradictions any clearer?

mmurphy: GOD GIVES YOU FREE CHOICE.

Ummm, NO!! At least not according to the buy bull. It most definitely indicates predeterminism.

mmurphy: BUDDA SURE DID NOT BRING YOU INTO THIS WORLD- SO WHY FOLLOW HIM? JESUS IS THE ONLY THAT REALLY CARES ABOUT YOU- WHY? BECAUSE HE MADE YOU.


Jeezus did not make me, my parents did. He is NOT the only one who cares about me. My wife and my family and my friends all care about.

Jeezus lied!! He said he would return during the lifetime of his disciples... 2000 years later and NO JEEZUS = he lied!!

We've all heard this same drivel time and time again. Remember this is an Ex-Xian site. What's that mean? We used to believe the same way you do. But we studied and found out it was false. Then we get people like you who try to come in here and shove your religion down our throats again. Your words are wasted here.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

In your churchs' basements,TREMBLE in FEAR. Whilst the darkest of shadows oppresses ye, TREMBLE in FEAR.
I am the Scourage of God. I am the antithisis of Allah. I am the destroyer of the Jehovah.
I am the BUDDAH DEVIL.

1. One must first prove that they themselves exist.
Do you exist? Right now? Yesterday?
Tomorrow?
2. The Nature of Existence -- as revealed by the great 20th century physicists -- is impermanent and devoid of absolute parameters. Thus if you can not prove your own existence, how can you prove the existence of an anthropomorphic god
who finds it necessary to constantly intervene in his perfect creation.
3.Only knowledge and consciousness are eternal; truth is eternal; where do you thing you might find the truth???????

BUDDAH DEVIL

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