Thank you Jim Bob Duggar!
Sent in by Amy
For those of you that may not know, Jim Bob Duggar is the Arkansas man whose primary claim to fame is that he has managed to father 17 children, at last count (or the last time I cared about counting…). He has also served in politics at a local level and his platform is primarily built on the total abolition of abortion. (How fitting!) Anyway, I like to credit Jim Bob and his lifestyle, broadcast for the entire world to see on the Discovery Health Channel, for my leaving religion altogether. His lifestyle is of course dictated by his fundamentalist view of the Bible, from which he and his wife have extrapolated that it is their duty to fill the world with mini-Duggars, dressed in a weird combination of fashions from the early to mid 1980’s and Little House on the Prairie. But enough about them. How did Jim Bob facilitate my complete and total apostasy from Christianity?
First let me share that I was raised by nice and well-meaning parents. Their conversion to evangelical Christianity when I was a year old was motivated by the fact that they could not bear the thought of me going to hell. We were a military family and the church gave us an “insta-community” with all the moving around we did. This life included homeschooling, church every time the doors opened and no Halloween. My parents considered themselves pretty liberal by the standard set within “those” circles. My mother wore pants (literally and figuratively…without her interest I suspect my father’s faith would have faded years ago, not long after his collection of 70’s rock records were nearly committed to the fire by one of my mom’s favorite pastors. Don’t worry, he rescued them.), limited the size of their family to 4 children, and allowed us to listen to Christian music. All of this would have probably resulted ultimately in my attending a Christian college, marrying a pastor and settling down to a life of homeschooling, Bible studies and wifely submission. However, when it was time for me to decide on college my mom did a curious thing, for which to this day, has expressed regret. The college I wanted to attend was located in Tennessee, and she and my father had settled in southern Ohio upon his retirement from the military. She simply could not bear the thought of me being so far away and so forbade me from going there. I obediently enrolled in community college, and after two years ended up at a very liberal state university.
College and university were my first real exposure to an array of ideas. Ideas purported, explained and taught by very intelligent and articulate people. People much more so, than the preachers, teachers at my Christian schools, or youth leaders that had heretofore been my source of information. And so I played with their beliefs, trying them out as if they were my own. “What if there is no GOD?” I remember saying bitterly to my parents, who sat in stunned silence. We had of course, been arguing about my lifestyle of sex and booze—a lifestyle I had adopted when I arrived at public university because well, it was fun. Anyway, I eventually graduated and started out on a life of adulthood. At that point I didn’t consider myself a non-believer. Primarily just backslidden, I felt that one day, when I was finished having fun, I would return.
Well, all of a sudden I was 25 and pregnant with my long-time on-again-off-again boyfriend/ex-fiance’s child. We decided to get married and so we did. My parents were actually glad, probably because it meant I was settling down and would perhaps soon be living the life they had raised me to live. I did try attending church. After all, I didn’t want my daughter to go to hell, right? But a few things troubled me. My own experience with church and Christians wasn’t all peaches and roses. Corporal punishment (could I really let someone else effectively beat my child?), humiliation of those that didn’t quite fit the prescribed mold, the graphic descriptions of hell, fear mongering with threats of being left behind when the rapture came…was I really going to give my precious, intelligent, and beautiful daughter over to these things too?
So where does Jim Bob enter the picture? Well, one night, during this “I need to go back to church, it’s now or never” period, I watched "14 Children and Pregnant Again," the story of Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar and their 14+ names that all start with “J” (gag) children. I watched with amusement and fascination. Their lifestyle was familiar, although more extreme, than mine had been, but a kinship was undeniable. I called my mom the next day to share my amusement and, well shock, at the way they were living. My mother had watched the special too (I think that she harbors wistful thoughts of a more Duggar-like existence had my father been more gung-ho about the religion thing in general…thanks Dad! No really, thank you.). She was ecstatic with praise and admiration. I barely get a word in edgewise. So the next day, I logged onto the Internet and found a thread on Television Without Pity about the show. With glee, I reveled in the snark, sarcasm and derision I found there. I finished reading the thread and was left wanting more. Surely, there was more, somewhere, on the wide, wide Web. Going to Google I typed in the following: fundamentalism, quiverfull. Several sites popped up. Many of them were supportive of the lifestyle—over those, I skipped. But there was one site I could not ignore: WalkAwayers, or “Walking Away from Fundamentalism.” What?!!! People that walked away??? I couldn’t help myself, I was intrigued. I spent the next several days reading testimonies, discussions and articles. They expressed my doubts, my questions, my opinions—things I had barely dared to think, much less express. These were people that had backgrounds similar to mine, which had the courage to face those nagging thoughts and walk into the dark unknown.
Well, it was pretty much downhill from there. I remember vividly the “deconversion” experience, as real as any tearful altar call. I was on my way to pick up my daughter from her babysitter, I thought, “I don’t believe in God, Jesus, the devil and all that shite…anymore.” My whole body seemed lighter, somehow. As if I had instantly lost 20 pounds (the Holy Spirit leaving perhaps??) and was free from some unseen bindings. Life now, a couple of years later, has a depth and breadth that it never had when I was a Christian. And thanks to the World of Jim Bob, I have found my happiness.
For those of you that may not know, Jim Bob Duggar is the Arkansas man whose primary claim to fame is that he has managed to father 17 children, at last count (or the last time I cared about counting…). He has also served in politics at a local level and his platform is primarily built on the total abolition of abortion. (How fitting!) Anyway, I like to credit Jim Bob and his lifestyle, broadcast for the entire world to see on the Discovery Health Channel, for my leaving religion altogether. His lifestyle is of course dictated by his fundamentalist view of the Bible, from which he and his wife have extrapolated that it is their duty to fill the world with mini-Duggars, dressed in a weird combination of fashions from the early to mid 1980’s and Little House on the Prairie. But enough about them. How did Jim Bob facilitate my complete and total apostasy from Christianity?
First let me share that I was raised by nice and well-meaning parents. Their conversion to evangelical Christianity when I was a year old was motivated by the fact that they could not bear the thought of me going to hell. We were a military family and the church gave us an “insta-community” with all the moving around we did. This life included homeschooling, church every time the doors opened and no Halloween. My parents considered themselves pretty liberal by the standard set within “those” circles. My mother wore pants (literally and figuratively…without her interest I suspect my father’s faith would have faded years ago, not long after his collection of 70’s rock records were nearly committed to the fire by one of my mom’s favorite pastors. Don’t worry, he rescued them.), limited the size of their family to 4 children, and allowed us to listen to Christian music. All of this would have probably resulted ultimately in my attending a Christian college, marrying a pastor and settling down to a life of homeschooling, Bible studies and wifely submission. However, when it was time for me to decide on college my mom did a curious thing, for which to this day, has expressed regret. The college I wanted to attend was located in Tennessee, and she and my father had settled in southern Ohio upon his retirement from the military. She simply could not bear the thought of me being so far away and so forbade me from going there. I obediently enrolled in community college, and after two years ended up at a very liberal state university.
College and university were my first real exposure to an array of ideas. Ideas purported, explained and taught by very intelligent and articulate people. People much more so, than the preachers, teachers at my Christian schools, or youth leaders that had heretofore been my source of information. And so I played with their beliefs, trying them out as if they were my own. “What if there is no GOD?” I remember saying bitterly to my parents, who sat in stunned silence. We had of course, been arguing about my lifestyle of sex and booze—a lifestyle I had adopted when I arrived at public university because well, it was fun. Anyway, I eventually graduated and started out on a life of adulthood. At that point I didn’t consider myself a non-believer. Primarily just backslidden, I felt that one day, when I was finished having fun, I would return.
Well, all of a sudden I was 25 and pregnant with my long-time on-again-off-again boyfriend/ex-fiance’s child. We decided to get married and so we did. My parents were actually glad, probably because it meant I was settling down and would perhaps soon be living the life they had raised me to live. I did try attending church. After all, I didn’t want my daughter to go to hell, right? But a few things troubled me. My own experience with church and Christians wasn’t all peaches and roses. Corporal punishment (could I really let someone else effectively beat my child?), humiliation of those that didn’t quite fit the prescribed mold, the graphic descriptions of hell, fear mongering with threats of being left behind when the rapture came…was I really going to give my precious, intelligent, and beautiful daughter over to these things too?
So where does Jim Bob enter the picture? Well, one night, during this “I need to go back to church, it’s now or never” period, I watched "14 Children and Pregnant Again," the story of Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar and their 14+ names that all start with “J” (gag) children. I watched with amusement and fascination. Their lifestyle was familiar, although more extreme, than mine had been, but a kinship was undeniable. I called my mom the next day to share my amusement and, well shock, at the way they were living. My mother had watched the special too (I think that she harbors wistful thoughts of a more Duggar-like existence had my father been more gung-ho about the religion thing in general…thanks Dad! No really, thank you.). She was ecstatic with praise and admiration. I barely get a word in edgewise. So the next day, I logged onto the Internet and found a thread on Television Without Pity about the show. With glee, I reveled in the snark, sarcasm and derision I found there. I finished reading the thread and was left wanting more. Surely, there was more, somewhere, on the wide, wide Web. Going to Google I typed in the following: fundamentalism, quiverfull. Several sites popped up. Many of them were supportive of the lifestyle—over those, I skipped. But there was one site I could not ignore: WalkAwayers, or “Walking Away from Fundamentalism.” What?!!! People that walked away??? I couldn’t help myself, I was intrigued. I spent the next several days reading testimonies, discussions and articles. They expressed my doubts, my questions, my opinions—things I had barely dared to think, much less express. These were people that had backgrounds similar to mine, which had the courage to face those nagging thoughts and walk into the dark unknown.
Well, it was pretty much downhill from there. I remember vividly the “deconversion” experience, as real as any tearful altar call. I was on my way to pick up my daughter from her babysitter, I thought, “I don’t believe in God, Jesus, the devil and all that shite…anymore.” My whole body seemed lighter, somehow. As if I had instantly lost 20 pounds (the Holy Spirit leaving perhaps??) and was free from some unseen bindings. Life now, a couple of years later, has a depth and breadth that it never had when I was a Christian. And thanks to the World of Jim Bob, I have found my happiness.
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"This one's 2, this one's 3, she's 4, he's 6, he's 7, the twins are 8...."
"What, no 5-year-old?"
"Oh, no, that's the year we got DirecTV..."
Basically, if women are raised only to have tons of babies and keep a home, then educating them beyond high school is seen as a waste- they won't have any use of a career. Once women are denied higher education, they are less intelligent overall then their male counterparts and thus looked down on, strengthening stereotypes. Also, what would be the point of a woman's life, go from parents house to husbands house. In fact, at least one of my mini-duggar friends informed me that her kids weren't going to college unless the BOYS had aspirations to go into the ministry, though blue collar work was good enough for their dad and thus them, and that her daughters had no need of it since they would become wives and mothers. I sincerly hope her kids rebel and go get some real world experience. I hope her daughters refuse to be second class citizens simply because they have vaginas.
And I am SICK of the Duggars. They believe Jesus will provide, yet they were unable to provide their own home until a tv station stepped in and financed the project. I hope that at least one, if not more of their kids leave te faith when they get old enough to get out from under their parents wing. I wish Discovery channel would stop glorfying them, but I guess they are appealing to the homeschool seminar going families.
I can't imagine that professional gestator Duggar is doing all the housework, homeschooling and childrearing on her own. I'm sure her oldest girls have gotten a lifetime of adult responsibility before ever turning 18. In these situations I see homeschooling as nothing more than a means of keeping "mother's helpers" home all day to rear children they didn't give birth to and to brainwash them.
I have watched quite a few episodes of the Dugger’s show and I do notice that they have sold themselves out because I have never heard their religion mentioned(OK one kid did say he must put Jesus before all, but that was it). Discovery must have said, “OK we will build you a million dollar home with all the furnishings, but you must never mention your fucked up religion, and you must continue to squirt out as many kids as possible.” If it weren’t for Discovery the only way that jackass could feed all those kids would be from handouts from the church. He would be in the same basic situation as Juan mentioned above. What does Jim Dugger do for a living? They never mention that he even has a job. He just has all the time in the world to drive his kids around in that airport shuttle bus.
What church do they belong where the women can’t wear pants or a haircut that fit’s the era? It is just so God Damned silly seeing Jim look like the epitome of the modern male while the wife and girls run around with those 1800’s hairdos and dresses. That women needs a hair intervention(I wonder if Jim ever accidentally blew his load in that hair?). I guess what ever church the belong, those old fashioned dresses and the Christian symbol of women’s repression like the burka is to Islam. The men definitely wear the pants.
Well Amy I find it quite silly that it was the Duggers that pulled you away from Christianity. Perhaps you should drop them a line and give them thanks. Welcome to reality !!!!!!!
And in between bids on the local school board and state assembly, the Sperm Whale works as a Realtor.
With the housing market as screwed up as it is, it would seem he's got plenty of time to make baybees and try to get elected to bankrupt the school system trying to get Creationism taught in public schools.
From the female's mode of over-dress, I'd say they are of the United Pentecostal perversion...
I homeschool and I think this family is creepy.
The further south one travels from the Mason-Dixon line, the further south the IQ levels head.
homeschooling mom of six.
"This life is short. Trust the Creator"
Hey Anon,
It's really tough to 'trust' in something that doesn't exist, wouldn't you say?
>"homeschooling mom of six"
I feel very SORRY for those six kids!!
I bet you won't let them near a public school because they might find out your god exists only in YOUR mind.
So yeah anon, keep them home so you can be assured they receive a proper old-fashioned brain-scrubbing.
BTW.....what exactly do you teach them when it comes time for the science lessons?
I bet you ripped out many pages from their science textbooks, right?
How about the books they need to read for English Lit.?
Do you black-out all the words/sentences that you find offensive to god?
I can only wonder what you might do with History when it's time to study ancient history.
What about more current history where xtians armies went around killing in the name of their god?
How do you justify those actions to these poor kids?
ATF (Who is praying to all the gods, for those kids to realize your god is a fantasy, just like the other ancient gods from their history lessons)
Do you have any kids? Are you even married?
Did you ever go to a magic show? Looks can be deceiving.
Unfortunately, some of the kids may have continued this sick tradition of overbreeding, so their genome's drain on the Earth's resources may well continue for a few more generations.
I am somewhat reassured, however, that many of the Duggar kids will eschew super-sized procreation... Madame M put me in mind of my own family, and I have a similar tale to relate.
Both my mom and dad came from large families, seven kids on the maternal side and five on the paternal side. Examining both sides of the child generation, I see my brother with two kids; me with one daughter; several cousins with one sibling; three cousins who are only children; and three aunts and two uncles who did not reproduce at all.
Those very few kids, however, are living large in another sense: We've got a medical research scientist, an urban planner, and virtually everyone else working or pursuing a second career in writing, art or music.
So we may well see unexpected benefits when the saner of the Duggar kids deconvert and give Reality a closer look.
Consider www.lds.org, a source that explains how original Christianity, which included prophets and apostles that held AUTHORITY from God, and necessary ordinances, have been restored in preparation for the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
Hell is not what was described to you
You're right HoustonAggie, hell isn't what was described to us, but rather, hell is when xtians like YOU chose to spam our ex-xtian site with your crap.
ATF (Who knows Hell, heaven, and this jesus, are nothing but silly myths)
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