Freedom to be me

sent in by Jo

Well the only religious family member I have is my gran. She is a God
fearing Catholic. She forced my brother, cousin and I to go to church
every Sunday with her from a very early age. We were told that there was
a man sitting at the back who was watching us to make sure we were
being good.

I hated church, though eventually when I was about 8 the brainwashing paid off and I became a good Christian. But something at the back of my mind was niggling me. It kept questioning what the priest would say. I later became Church of England as it was less demanding than Catholicism. But one sermon angered me. The Rev. told us that we were not individuals but we were one. He kept repeating how we were not individuals.

Was he on drugs or something? How can we not be individual? If we were not we would be a mass of pink goo slurping and making weird fart noises as we move as one being!

I came across a website which states all of the evil things in the bible that the Christian god has demanded people to do from raping virgins to killing children, was this a god for me? Hell no!

I am rather new to the craft but I am very happy. Sex is celebrated and our deities are seen as more symbolic than an actual being who is perving on us 24/7. I worship nature and strive to live among it and not rule over it. I am not at all saying that my religion is the right one, who can know if there is one at all? I am saying that it is right for me, I get to live my life as fully as I want without denying myself of pleasure. I felt the anger once I saw the light and realised that the church was just a way to control and subdue the masses but I would not let it take over.

So I toast to the freedom I have found and the happiness I now feel!

How old were you when you became a Christian? Early childhood
How old were you when you ceased being a Christian? 22
What churches or organizations or labels have applied to you?
Catholicism, then later Church Of England (Protestant)
What labels, if any, would you apply to yourself now? Wiccan
Why did you become a Christian? Had no choice, it was forced fed me
from Catholic grandmother
Why did you de-convert? Paganism made more sense, you don't feel guilty
about living life and you are encouraged to question and learn
Email: Serenitycourt at Yahoo dot Co dot UK


Anonymous said...

T,ytotp: "I agree with your preferance of religion. I am an atheist but two religeons I truly respect is Wicca and Buddism."

"Both initiates and solitary Wiccans worship the Goddess, with most also choosing to worship the God, and both celebrate the Sabbats and Esbats."

I respect any belief system a person holds personally as Truth... However, I take reservation when a belief systems alters a persons' concept of physical reality, and affects society in a negative manner... Typically, those who seem "down to earth" have a much more lucid grasp of their position in life, and better capable to make decisions accordingly...

Noting that Wiccans practice the supernatural essence of goddess and/or Horn God, depending on the coven, there is much one need research on the Value of the worship, and the purpose... I suppose, communal affairs is one benefit, however, I suppose no one need a purpose to have a belief in a personal sense, but... its nothing I could be invovled with, I look for tangible benefits for my actions, in a deterministic manner... If I could reach these tangible benefits, without the religious practice, there would exist the question, as to the "need" for the religious association...

Wiccans... do have their belief system founded on mythological origins... And, is based on an "alternate" reality, where a preternatural being(s) exist, and can be invoked through ritual(s), or in varied exercises, with multiple practices and ritual(s)... I suppose one would have to be closely associated to one of the three covens to be a formal initiate for more in depth formal practices, but, one can always go solo, I suppose...

On the Goddess...

T,ytotp: "Pagan beliefs allow you to live your life with hapiness, not fear or worry."

That would be a soloist view... from my experience...

T,ytotp: "Buddism provides the real morals and goodness a person should have."

Well, Buddhism... one form of religious or philosophyical practice, that attempts to enlighten a person to the point of nirvana, and release from the endless cycle of suffering through reincarnation... One gains through prajna, hopefully, to get to the balanced origin of their being...

Buddhism, allows for supernatural/preternatural deities, and does in many schools of thought, teach that these forces have as much influence on daily lives, as humans... and there are rituals that are directly associated in keeping balance with these supernatural forces...

T,ytotp: "Both bring you closer to nature and alow you to find yourself."

Anytime, SuperNatural enters the picture, one is never really sure at any minute whether the SuperNatural forces are being positive or negative in ones' life... Indeed, if a person believed to the point, that these forces did in fact "influence" their lives... This does remove ones perception of focus on the "natural" reality, in varying degrees... those who lean heavily toward supernatural influences in their lives make decisions in their natural life, much differently than those who do not believe in "interactive" supernatural forces...

T,ytotp: "Who said relaxation and hapiness sinful."

I agree, relaxation and happiness are good qualities, and if a person needs to believe in the supernatural to get them from day to day, then its their personal belief and their right... I just don't prefer to rely on things I can't really "know", by personal experience in the natural... totally... its the total separation for me, from the supernatural that allows me to have peace and happiness... no rituals, no practices that require me to restrict my knowledge to a finite framework... I am happy being physically and mentally free to expand beyond "closed" systems of knowledge... I am more of a three-dimensional thinker...

T,ytotp: "Jo, Dave AND Lucy, justlive your lives. Don't waste your time worring about the worlds problems like me."

I agree, one must definitely take the time to smell the roses in life... In a manner of speaking however, I find it hard in these days and times, to totally remove myself from social influences that seem to threaten Individuality and freedoms... and thus, I have to remain part of the "whole" in order to keep a balance... When a society becomes off balanced, due to being subjected to belief systems that remove them from "physical" reality for too long, the whole becomes susceptible to the "few" charismatics, and typically their agenda of world domination, etc... By focusing on the "natural" world and environment, and critically filtering information, its a little more difficult to be misled, and duped...

T,ytotp: "PEACE!"


Anonymous said...

Jo: "Hi Dave8, I am rather new to this site but I have seen some of your posts on other testimonies, nice to have you post on mine again."

Hey Jo, its always nice to talk about life, in a free atmosphere, I enjoy reading your posts also, hope to see you more often, take care... Dave

Anonymous said...

I'm so sorry that you had a bad experience growing up in the church. Why? Because I want all "individuals" to have the opportunity to experience the true and living God, who created each of us, with a purpose, to bring glory to Him and love eachother. His love is like no other, and makes this life worth living. I pray you will have a revelation of His great love for you, that you may spend eternity with Him, because the alternative is not pretty, and once it's over, there's no turning back. You are either going to admit to the truth and accept it, or believe a lie and suffer the consequences. That's the kind of God we serve...He never forces Himself on's a choice. The choices we make affect our eternity, and there is no doubt that there are only two choices. Choose life or death. I pray you will realize the truth. At the moment, you are deceived. Open your eyes to the only truth, the truth that will lead you to life, everlasting, with a God who loves you unconditionally. But, just like any good Father...there are rules that will lead to life, and breaking those rules will end in destruction. Choose life...this life is too short to spend on only those things that will destroy you.

freethinker05 said...

Gee, Thanks Anonymous, you've made me do alot of thinking by writing such a loving, and caring comment to me/us, that I have accepted ALLAH,and his last and truthful prophet, MOHAMMED, peace be upon him, plus ALLAH's holy and truthful words of the QURAN. Thanks again, for giving me the hope of paradise. Roger

freethinker05 said...

Oh yeah, Anonymous,
Please that YOUR God, and stick it/her/him Thanks anyway, Roger, A/A

freethinker05 said...


Astreja said...

Yet another bone-wearying Anonymous: "His love is like no other, and makes this life worth living."

Ah, yes. Segue into Pascal's Wager: If you exercise your free will and refuse to play along, expect to be tortured for eternity. Your imaginary god is the very antithesis of the word "love". Can you not see the brutal absurdity in what you just said to us?

And, Anonymous, you would do well to look up the dictionary definitions of "truth" and "lie" and "deceived" and "no doubt". Until we have actual physical proof that your god exists, you have no fucking business using it as a variable in true/false equations and absolute statements.

But thanks for reinforcing the "freedom to be me" topic by pointing out that the Christian version of "freedom" is anything but.

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